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		<title>Comment on Fertility &#8211; Less or More? by Ian M</title>
		<link>http://ondisturbedground.wordpress.com/2012/06/22/fertility-less-or-more/#comment-1622</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ian M]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Apr 2013 17:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pretty good NatGeo article on Nitrogen, over-fertilisation and runaway agricultural output: &#039;&lt;a href=&quot;http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2013/05/fertilized-world/charles-text&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Curse of Fertilizer&lt;/a&gt;&#039; touching on many of the above points and filling out some detail (h/t &lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/VanessaSpedding&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Vanessa&lt;/a&gt;). I thought this was particularly well put:

&lt;blockquote&gt;almost half of the nitrogen found in our bodies’ muscle and organ tissue started out in a fertilizer factory&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Although the author made the usual howler of putting the cart of human population before the horse of agricultural surplus:

&lt;blockquote&gt;As [China&#039;s] population grew by an astounding 300 million people between 1970 and 1990, China’s traditional agriculture struggled to keep up.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well, okay, maybe the old peasant traditions didn&#039;t play so much of a role in it but those additional 300 million people came into the world &lt;em&gt;as a direct result&lt;/em&gt; of the higher yields made possible by nitrogen fertilisers and the new plant varieties that were bred specifically to take advantage of them. If anything it was the &lt;em&gt;human population&lt;/em&gt; which &#039;struggled to keep up&#039; with the massive expansion of food availability and an artificially increased carrying capacity of the land. More food = more people.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty good NatGeo article on Nitrogen, over-fertilisation and runaway agricultural output: &#8216;<a href="http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2013/05/fertilized-world/charles-text" rel="nofollow">The Curse of Fertilizer</a>&#8216; touching on many of the above points and filling out some detail (h/t <a href="http://twitter.com/VanessaSpedding" rel="nofollow">Vanessa</a>). I thought this was particularly well put:</p>
<blockquote><p>almost half of the nitrogen found in our bodies’ muscle and organ tissue started out in a fertilizer factory</p></blockquote>
<p>Although the author made the usual howler of putting the cart of human population before the horse of agricultural surplus:</p>
<blockquote><p>As [China's] population grew by an astounding 300 million people between 1970 and 1990, China’s traditional agriculture struggled to keep up.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, okay, maybe the old peasant traditions didn&#8217;t play so much of a role in it but those additional 300 million people came into the world <em>as a direct result</em> of the higher yields made possible by nitrogen fertilisers and the new plant varieties that were bred specifically to take advantage of them. If anything it was the <em>human population</em> which &#8216;struggled to keep up&#8217; with the massive expansion of food availability and an artificially increased carrying capacity of the land. More food = more people.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Taking up smoking by Sean</title>
		<link>http://ondisturbedground.wordpress.com/2013/03/25/taking-up-smoking/#comment-1614</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Apr 2013 13:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Ian,

I’m the Survival editor at Before It’s News. Our site is a People Powered
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ian,</p>
<p>I’m the Survival editor at Before It’s News. Our site is a People Powered<br />
news platform with over 4,000,000 visits a month and growing fast.</p>
<p>We would be honored if we could republish the rss feed of On Disturbed Ground<br />
in our Self-Sufficiency category. Our readers need to read what experts like you have to say.</p>
<p>If you are interested in syndicating with us, please contact me at:</p>
<p>sean [at] beforeitsnews.com</p>
<p>Thank You</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fertility &#8211; Less or More? by Londa Fiser</title>
		<link>http://ondisturbedground.wordpress.com/2012/06/22/fertility-less-or-more/#comment-1591</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Londa Fiser]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Apr 2013 03:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks on your marvelous posting! I quite enjoyed reading it, you might be a great author.I will ensure that I bookmark your blog and definitely will come back down the road. I want to encourage you to ultimately continue your great job, have a nice morning!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks on your marvelous posting! I quite enjoyed reading it, you might be a great author.I will ensure that I bookmark your blog and definitely will come back down the road. I want to encourage you to ultimately continue your great job, have a nice morning!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Where I&#8217;ve been by Ian M</title>
		<link>http://ondisturbedground.wordpress.com/2013/01/06/where-ive-been/#comment-1584</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ian M]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Apr 2013 10:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Half-lost at &#039;system&#039;, fully lost by &#039;tetrahedrally&#039;. After that my brain started to melt and drip out my ears, eyes, nose etc.

Thanks for the new experience!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Half-lost at &#8216;system&#8217;, fully lost by &#8216;tetrahedrally&#8217;. After that my brain started to melt and drip out my ears, eyes, nose etc.</p>
<p>Thanks for the new experience!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Where I&#8217;ve been by steelweaver</title>
		<link>http://ondisturbedground.wordpress.com/2013/01/06/where-ive-been/#comment-1577</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[steelweaver]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Apr 2013 23:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#039;2.13 What is the ``omnidirectional halo?&#039;&#039;

[This relates to Fuller&#039;s epistemography. From Synergetics [501.10-501.12]]

``Any conceptual thought is a system and is structured tetrahedrally. This is because all conceptuality is polyhedral. The sums of all the angles around all the vertexes - even crocodile, or a 10,000-frequency geodesic (which is what the Earth really is) - will always be 720 degrees less than the number of vertexes time 360 degrees.

``The difference between nonconceptual, nonsimultaneous Universe and thinkability is always two tetrahedra: one as macro, to complete the convex localness outside the system, and one as micro, to complete the concave localness inside the system, to add up to finite but nonconceptual Universe. Thus the thinkable system takeout from Universe has a &#039;left-out&#039; outside irrelevancy tetrahedron and a &#039;left-in&#039; inside irrelevancy tetrahedron.

``You have to have the starkly nonvisible to provide the complementary tetrahedron to account for the visibility, since concave and convex are not the same. That stark invisible reality of the nonconceptual macro- and micro-tetrahedra also have to have this 720-degree elegance. But the invisible outside tetrahedron was equally stark. The finite but nonconceptual inness and outness: that is the Omnidirectional Halo.&#039;&#039; &#039;

I hope that makes things clear. ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8217;2.13 What is the &#8220;omnidirectional halo?&#8221;</p>
<p>[This relates to Fuller's epistemography. From Synergetics [501.10-501.12]]</p>
<p>&#8220;Any conceptual thought is a system and is structured tetrahedrally. This is because all conceptuality is polyhedral. The sums of all the angles around all the vertexes &#8211; even crocodile, or a 10,000-frequency geodesic (which is what the Earth really is) &#8211; will always be 720 degrees less than the number of vertexes time 360 degrees.</p>
<p>&#8220;The difference between nonconceptual, nonsimultaneous Universe and thinkability is always two tetrahedra: one as macro, to complete the convex localness outside the system, and one as micro, to complete the concave localness inside the system, to add up to finite but nonconceptual Universe. Thus the thinkable system takeout from Universe has a &#8216;left-out&#8217; outside irrelevancy tetrahedron and a &#8216;left-in&#8217; inside irrelevancy tetrahedron.</p>
<p>&#8220;You have to have the starkly nonvisible to provide the complementary tetrahedron to account for the visibility, since concave and convex are not the same. That stark invisible reality of the nonconceptual macro- and micro-tetrahedra also have to have this 720-degree elegance. But the invisible outside tetrahedron was equally stark. The finite but nonconceptual inness and outness: that is the Omnidirectional Halo.&#8221; &#8216;</p>
<p>I hope that makes things clear. <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Where I&#8217;ve been by wildcraft diva</title>
		<link>http://ondisturbedground.wordpress.com/2013/01/06/where-ive-been/#comment-1433</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wildcraft diva]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 22:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ciao Ian, I&#039;m about to embark on the apprenticeship programme with Sarah. She suggested that I contact you (I suppose because of the Italian connection). I can&#039;t find an email so I&#039;m commenting here. you can find my email on  my blog if you have time (senza impegno)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ciao Ian, I&#8217;m about to embark on the apprenticeship programme with Sarah. She suggested that I contact you (I suppose because of the Italian connection). I can&#8217;t find an email so I&#8217;m commenting here. you can find my email on  my blog if you have time (senza impegno)</p>
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		<title>Comment on More striking visuals by leavergirl</title>
		<link>http://ondisturbedground.wordpress.com/2013/01/16/more-striking-visuals/#comment-1418</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[leavergirl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 04:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ah. I don&#039;t think I can stomach them, but I watched Man. Brilliant.

Which brings me to another brilliant thing someone said recently... &quot;any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from nature.&quot; I hope they are here, and they are getting ready to squish us. What are they waiting for, anyways?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah. I don&#8217;t think I can stomach them, but I watched Man. Brilliant.</p>
<p>Which brings me to another brilliant thing someone said recently&#8230; &#8220;any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from nature.&#8221; I hope they are here, and they are getting ready to squish us. What are they waiting for, anyways?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Herbicide: The Gift That Keeps On Giving by Cameron</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cameron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2013 21:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi,

I have a quick question about your blog, would you mind emailing me when you get a chance?

Thanks,

Cameron]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I have a quick question about your blog, would you mind emailing me when you get a chance?</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Cameron</p>
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		<title>Comment on Giving Back #2 &#8211; Lessons from Burdock by dazinism</title>
		<link>http://ondisturbedground.wordpress.com/2012/03/05/giving-back-2-lessons-from-burdock/#comment-1409</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dazinism]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2013 23:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I tried a few times to post this comment on the Dark Mountain repost of this post without any luck

http://dark-mountain.net/uncategorized/lessons-from-burdock/

so I post here instead

Over the period of seasonal celebration I was reading through a load of tabs I have had open on my browser for some time.  One was this post, which I loved, along with the following discussion.  One of the next tabs I read was this page - I found it while doing research on seed sharing (the author organised a permaculture seed share for some years).
Apparently written 20 years ago.  Ties in nicely with the discussion at the  Dark Mountain reproduction of this post :-)
http://mountaingardensherbs.com/paradise.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried a few times to post this comment on the Dark Mountain repost of this post without any luck</p>
<p><a href="http://dark-mountain.net/uncategorized/lessons-from-burdock/" rel="nofollow">http://dark-mountain.net/uncategorized/lessons-from-burdock/</a></p>
<p>so I post here instead</p>
<p>Over the period of seasonal celebration I was reading through a load of tabs I have had open on my browser for some time.  One was this post, which I loved, along with the following discussion.  One of the next tabs I read was this page &#8211; I found it while doing research on seed sharing (the author organised a permaculture seed share for some years).<br />
Apparently written 20 years ago.  Ties in nicely with the discussion at the  Dark Mountain reproduction of this post <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
<a href="http://mountaingardensherbs.com/paradise.html" rel="nofollow">http://mountaingardensherbs.com/paradise.html</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Where I&#8217;ve been by Ian M</title>
		<link>http://ondisturbedground.wordpress.com/2013/01/06/where-ive-been/#comment-1403</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ian M]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 14:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Sarah, thanks for dropping by :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sarah, thanks for dropping by <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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